Mock Vote

[Falcon761]

Plz dont vote for nadar unless u are serious.

[gremdek]

There's no option: " I'm not from America".
Here are maybe 3 peple from the USA so better make this thread on some us forum.

[TonyG2]

Let me see.

OK I could make any number of disparaging remarks about Bush's mental shortcoming, his honesty and his general unfitness to run a boy scout troop let alone a nation armed with The Bomb.

But whats the point. US partisan politics is so utterly polarised, nothinmg anyone says makes a difference.

Fervant Republicans would vote for him even if he came out as a paid up member of the Klu Klux Klan and advocated the death penalty for anyone who implied he was a jerk.

Fervant democrats will vote for Kerry regardless of any implied indecisiveness etc.

But I'm willing to bet that the November election all turns on Florida again. And that there will be ballot rigging and manipulation of voting rights. Again.

[TheGlove]

well, i simply hate bush

;D MAKE LOVE NOT WAR ;D

[Falcon761 ARG]

ok..... i'm not going to argue w/ u fools, but i'll just state a few facts:
there are uncountably less deaths in Iraq now, then when saddam hussain was in power. and also, Kerry cheats on his taxes he paid 12.6% taxes last year when the rest of the nation (including bush) paid around 46%

[Slippster]

LOL @ Glove ! ROFL

a Laugh Out Loud moment !

[Cherel]

Damn... both options have 3 votes... even here it's true what we're told on tv, both could win...

I'm spanish (you know, Azores photograph, 11M... huge demonstrations against our last goverment decisions...)
Anyway, I don't like Bush relationship with other countries, and he seems to have driven it's country to a worse economical situation... I think if I had to vote, I would like to see what would Kerry do.

In spain, we think the our previous goverment did fine in economy, but we had to show them we will not easily forget going to war while very few spanish people wanted to get involved without any word from international organizations. It was a decision bettween economy or idealismn (I mean, people felt they were cheated when the goverment decided make war in spite of people's opinion). We (I'm referring to Spain, as it was decided by most of the citicen who voted, of course) chose to change our goverment.

[TonyG2]

I'm guessing here but maybe Falson is kinda leaning towards the Republican camp....

Cherel, we had the same thing in Britain. Blair swore, hand on heart, etc that there was definite evidence as to nukes, bio weapons and nerve agents ready for deployment.

For some reason, most people believed him - after all not even Blair would lie about that surely.....


Hey guys guess what. He lied.....

So did Bush. Give Dubya his due, his lie wan't about WMD, it was that Madman Saddam was in bed with Bin ladan and co.

Now on the one hand the Iraqui nutball deserves all the bad that is coming to him. The massed murder of the Kurdish people demand some reprisals if nothing else.

But the heavy handed approach taken has generated more potential terrorists than existed to begin with.

And don't forget that the bulk of the bastards who sized the 9/11 planes were Saudis. The Bush familys bestest busddies.....

I don't like Dubbyas economics. I don't like his take on the environment. But I could lie with that.

Its his take on international relationships that I fear a lot of US soldiers - and now British - may not live with.

To be frank, I don't think its Dubyas fault. he has a lot to prove to his daddy and its the like of thingy Cheney and John Ashcroft who are driving the policy. Hell, I suspect he never really wanted to be president in the first place and is as much a victim as the rest of America to the US Ultra Far Right Fundametalists (who are in their own way as bad as the Ultra Fundamentalist Islamics who are intent on murdering innocents left right and centre in Iraq and globally).

Could Kerry restore sanity?

Dunno

I suspect it would take a leader with a hell of a lot more about him. And regretably the likes of Lincoln and FDR (I'd even, at a pinch accept JFK) are long gone...

[TheGlove]

bush used the 9/11 to start a holy war for oil, a bomber even bombed a wedding becuz of a tradition of shotting to air, much like a military burial

dun forget

;D MAKE LOVE NOT WAR ;D

linking link !!!

[Falcon761 arg]

uh.....glove, i think u are looking at some anti-bush extremeist site or something.

Btw bush has acctually brought the US OUT of its worst econtomic state which began a few months before clinton left. now i'm done

[TheGlove]

bah, i would like to be in US wrost economic state

[Cherel]

Here we're told that Bush is the first president who could leave the White house leaving more jobless citicens than there were four years before, And it's said that he spent most of the money there was left from Clinton's goverment in both wars, so he has lost much more money than he has recovered.

At least, this is what we're told here.

-> 4 - 4 again...

[TonyG2]

Actually thats a very good point. All we know - and lets face it all the Aemrican voters know - is what the media tells them. And you trust the media......

Right wing bias/left wing bias? Take your pick!

Very misleading. Right wing (Fox? You listening....) repeattedly refer to kerry as having a disputed rep as a war hero EVEN WHEN THE EVIDENCE PROVES! HE WAS... And the liberal (C'mon they aint lefties in any nation but the US) media can't forget the Dubya BULGE... No not THAT bulge!! (he wishes ;D) (thats Slick Willy Clinton yer thinkin of). But no one has proved he wore a wire (his pronunciation of hard words(like You Rop) did improve though....)

Although to be honest I find it difficult to imagine a "left" wing American (as I thought Joe McCarthy caught 'em all a few years back

What I think of as an American left winger is pretty much a centrist politician over in the UK. God forbid you ever get some far left types. Over here THEY LIKE SADDAM!!!

Then again the US Right wing is SOOOOOOO! FAAAARRRRR! RRRIIIIIGGGHHHHHT! That they bend back and become totalitarians..... (left, right who gives a damn) The Universe is a sphere after all.....

Oh and Glove? There are some pretty destitute areas in the US? I've driven through them. You DON'T want their level of poverty. Trust me. Or their level of gun crime. etc etc Most are in the bible belt where the Republican ultra right have control it should be said and not in the less far right Democrat areas.

[TheGlove]

im sure thats better than our slums

[TonyG2]

Sorry, but I couldn't say.

On the bright side (sorry that sounds offensive. There IS no bright side), maybe the poverty striken in your slums can't afford the guns found in the poorer areas of the US...